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aircraft Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 8119 Age : 41 Localisation : au pied de la montagne vosgienne Date d'inscription : 21/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Dim 23 Déc 2007, 23:59 | |
| - Jo L'incruste a écrit:
- Il me semble qu'il n'y a pas si longtemps que ça, il y avait quelques clubs de ProA qui portait aussi le nom de leur sponsor principal :
L'Adecco Asvel et le Pitch Cholet... bon le pitch cholet on va oublier par contre pour l'adecco ASVEL c'était un bon exemple réussi jusqu'au jour ou vu la surmédiatisation du basket en france ils se sont rendu compte qu'ils bouffaient du pognon pour pas grand chose ce qui est bien dommage. | |
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A-Sir Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 12793 Localisation : Strasbourg & Nancy Date d'inscription : 01/12/2005
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Lun 24 Déc 2007, 00:01 | |
| - Jo L'incruste a écrit:
- Il me semble qu'il n'y a pas si longtemps que ça, il y avait quelques clubs de ProA qui portait aussi le nom de leur sponsor principal :
L'Adecco Asvel et le Pitch Cholet... Si l'Adecco ASVEL a longtemps eu un des plus gros budgets de France, ce n'est pour rien. Il faudrait vraiment que ce genre d'exemples se multiplient ... et durent. | |
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aircraft Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 8119 Age : 41 Localisation : au pied de la montagne vosgienne Date d'inscription : 21/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Lun 24 Déc 2007, 00:11 | |
| oui c'est ce que je dis l'adecco asvel ça a cartonné jusqu'au jour au adecco a réfléchi et s'est dit qu'il perdait trop de pognon mais c'est clair que c'est un super exemple et puis il y en a pleins a l'étranger comme ça ( j'adorais le kinder bologne ) | |
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Rasheed Wallace Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 8634 Age : 38 Localisation : Paris XI Date d'inscription : 01/12/2005
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Lun 24 Déc 2007, 18:36 | |
| - A-Sir a écrit:
- même les petits clubs turcs à qui on parvenait encore à piquer quelques bons joueurs (Michael Wright, Aerick Spencer) vont venir faire leur marché chez nous.
Aerick Sanders, c'est encore pire, il a signé dans un club letton je crois...Ou un des pays baltes. edit : ouais, après vérif' il joue à l'ASK Riga...Si même la Lettonie devient plus attirante que la France, on va dans le mur. | |
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daddy Disciple slucky
Nombre de messages : 173 Date d'inscription : 25/10/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 26 Déc 2007, 00:02 | |
| a condition que les éventuels annonceurs puissent récupérer leur investissement.Comment tu justifies aujourd'hui un sponsoring important d'un club de basket, alors même que les retombées médiatiques sont quasi-ridicules... Pour un sponsor, il faut un retour sur investissement, et la place du basket dans les médias est tres, tres faible.Et je ne connais pas de généreux donateur.. En plus, pour les joueurs et les sponsors, la fiscalité francaise n'est pas intéressante, charges et impôts trop lourds.. Ce sport est magnifique, mais la masse ne s'y intéresse pas..Le problème vient déjà de la base... | |
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xela slucky As des As
Nombre de messages : 3573 Age : 64 Localisation : squatter à Bercy Date d'inscription : 11/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 26 Déc 2007, 09:27 | |
| Et pourquoi pas du" Naming"??...... _________________ | |
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aircraft Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 8119 Age : 41 Localisation : au pied de la montagne vosgienne Date d'inscription : 21/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Jeu 27 Déc 2007, 18:10 | |
| c'est ce qu'on arrete pas de dire avec le "cas adecco asvel" | |
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Theseus As des As
Nombre de messages : 2831 Date d'inscription : 10/04/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Jeu 27 Déc 2007, 22:56 | |
| Article intéressant sur eurobasket.com - Citation :
- European Cups: The situation of the french teams at New Year
by Chris Spiesser - Dec 27, 2007
34%, that's the victory percentage of the french teams in the european cups. Not brilliant. Only 2 teams have a positive balance: ASVEL which is 5-2 in ULEB Cup and Cholet which started the Eurocup with 2 wins in 4 games. Here is little overview of the situation of the french teams: Euroleague: The balance drops to 17% in the main competition. Le mans didn't win a single game this fall but Roanne did better with a total outsider profil. _______________________________________________________________ _____________________________
34%, that's the victory percentage of the french teams in the european cups. Not brilliant. Only 2 teams have a positive balance: ASVEL which is 5-2 in ULEB Cup and Cholet which started the Eurocup with 2 wins in 4 games. Here is little overview of the situation of the french teams:
Euroleague: The balance drops to 17% in the main competition. Le mans didn't win a single game this fall but Roanne did better with a total outsider profil. The liguerians grabbed three wins, twice against Bamberg and one over Lottomatica Roma. They are still in a position to reach the Top 16 but the road is much more cloudy since their last defeat in the empty Pionir against Partizan. On the paper the best 6th spot is abordable but the team's calendar is awful with only two home games remaining against Barca and Real! For Le Mans, the situation is clear: if they end a second year in a row among the three worst Euroleague teams, their garanteed next season could vanish. They can regret their lack of cleverness in the last minutes. They lost three of their four first games by 3pts, a reverse situation and their hopes would be totally different.
The key points: The biggest satisfaction is Marc Salyers (205-F-79, college: Samford), best Euroleague scorer (21.8ppg 57%) and second most efficient player behind Macijauskas. Roanne ranks as the third best team at 6.25m with an accurate Adam Hess: 19/35. Brion Rush nicely relayed Dewarick Spencer as Roanne's scorer with 18.4ppg (45%) Le mans scores only 72.2ppg which is only the 22nd offensive sheet and Roanne has the worst defense: 89.22papg. Sam Clancy is one of the most regular player: 14.6ppg (56%), 7.3rpg and never one game under 11pts
ULEB Cup: If only the ASVEL has a positive balance, we can notice that on the other hand, only Pau is out of the race for the elimination rounds.
ASVEL (5-2) Group G One home win against Panionios for the next day and the ASVEL's future will be secured. They suffered only one real bad result with a home loss against Kalev Tallin. That has been ment in Estonia (63-91). The rhodanians manage to show the same powerfull paint in Europe then in ProA. They grab 36.6rpg (3rd in ULEB) and shoot at 57% at 2pts. Their 8-men rotation is also a terrific asset but they should raise their 3pts accuracy (33.6%) and gain in defensive efficiency (79.86papg).
Chalon (3-4) Group B Disappointing in ProA, coach Beugnot's team has not a brilliant situation in its group. The reds lost twice against Koln... so they almost have no joker left to overcome the germans. They will have to win their three last games with a hard visit to Besiktas. Moussa Badiane and John Ford do a great job in the paint but the team needs a heavy bigmen as team scores under 50% at 2pts. Shawnta Rogers (11.7pts, 3.3ass) will be replaced by Darrell Mitchell.
Nancy (3-4) Group D The french leader is in trouble in Europe but their group is really tough. And they suffered real short losses. Their next game in Mariupol will define their future but even with a loss they could rank among the five best fourth which also advance to elimination rounds. They have an extensible bench with 9 players scoring at least 5ppg. The relation Ricardo Greer (15.6ppg, 5rpg, 3.9ass) - Cyril Julian (16.4ppg 60%, 4.6rpg in 25mns) leads the team. Coach Monschau can also give some precious minutes to his young center Zaki: 5.1ppg (74%) and 3.6rpg.
Strasbourg (3-4) Group I Tha Alsatians had a complicated start in ProA as well as in Uleb Cup. Since a few weeks the team feels better despite playing with no US swingman. The calendar could bring the team to the next phase as the Rhenus is an undeafeated arena in ULEB Cup and Turow and Zadar are still expected. The weakness on the road (-22.75ppg in 4 games) should be erased with only one game to play in Den Bosch. The team is not very efficient (no player above 11rkg points and 51st offensive balance), but the collective has great sense of sacrifice like captain McCord (7.1ppg 55%, 5.1rpg). Pettway is finding his place in the paint with two double-doubles in the two last victories.
Pau-Orthez (1-6) Group H The historic Euroleague team is going through a difficult period. In Europe, Pau only grabbed one win vs Benetton and has the 53rd offensive sheet with 67.42ppg. They have sad -113pts balance but the team has be redesigned for the next year. The new coach Laurent Mopsus will drive a all-new roster in 2008 with Antwayne Robison, Antonio Graves, Jeleel Akindele and Jeff Trepagnier. The last three ULEB Cup games will be used as lifts to set up the new collective and give some minutes to satisfying youngsters. It will be a ramp to the main target: save the ProA spot!
Eurocup: Two french teams were on the starting line but one hasn't gone through the preliminary round. Gravelines litterally sunk against the KK Zagreb with 2 defeats and an 185-150 aggergate. Not brilliant as the two teams have quite the same difficulties in their local championships: Gravelines is 4-8 in ProA and the KK Zagreb is 4-11 in Adriatic League.
Cholet did much better as they eliminated the AEK Athens in the preliminary round (160-146agg). The quarter final qualification is totally opened in a group where coach Kunter boys lost in Yuzhny, won against Lokomotiv Rostov and still have to meet twice the Barons from Riga. The team is also behaving well in the french league and is led by an efficient french trident: Nando De Colo (17ppg, 3.5rpg, 2.5ass), Claude Marquis (14.5ppg, 6.5rpg) and Steed Tchicamboud (13.3ppg, 5.3rpg, 3.0 apg). | |
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claudius Slucky 2ème Dan
Nombre de messages : 622 Date d'inscription : 06/02/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Ven 28 Déc 2007, 22:12 | |
| - Theseus a écrit:
- Article intéressant sur eurobasket.com
- Citation :
- European Cups: The situation of the french teams at New Year
by Chris Spiesser - Dec 27, 2007
34%, that's the victory percentage of the french teams in the european cups. Not brilliant. Only 2 teams have a positive balance: ASVEL which is 5-2 in ULEB Cup and Cholet which started the Eurocup with 2 wins in 4 games. Here is little overview of the situation of the french teams: Euroleague: The balance drops to 17% in the main competition. Le mans didn't win a single game this fall but Roanne did better with a total outsider profil. _______________________________________________________________ _____________________________
34%, that's the victory percentage of the french teams in the european cups. Not brilliant. Only 2 teams have a positive balance: ASVEL which is 5-2 in ULEB Cup and Cholet which started the Eurocup with 2 wins in 4 games. Here is little overview of the situation of the french teams:
Euroleague: The balance drops to 17% in the main competition. Le mans didn't win a single game this fall but Roanne did better with a total outsider profil. The liguerians grabbed three wins, twice against Bamberg and one over Lottomatica Roma. They are still in a position to reach the Top 16 but the road is much more cloudy since their last defeat in the empty Pionir against Partizan. On the paper the best 6th spot is abordable but the team's calendar is awful with only two home games remaining against Barca and Real! For Le Mans, the situation is clear: if they end a second year in a row among the three worst Euroleague teams, their garanteed next season could vanish. They can regret their lack of cleverness in the last minutes. They lost three of their four first games by 3pts, a reverse situation and their hopes would be totally different.
The key points: The biggest satisfaction is Marc Salyers (205-F-79, college: Samford), best Euroleague scorer (21.8ppg 57%) and second most efficient player behind Macijauskas. Roanne ranks as the third best team at 6.25m with an accurate Adam Hess: 19/35. Brion Rush nicely relayed Dewarick Spencer as Roanne's scorer with 18.4ppg (45%) Le mans scores only 72.2ppg which is only the 22nd offensive sheet and Roanne has the worst defense: 89.22papg. Sam Clancy is one of the most regular player: 14.6ppg (56%), 7.3rpg and never one game under 11pts
ULEB Cup: If only the ASVEL has a positive balance, we can notice that on the other hand, only Pau is out of the race for the elimination rounds.
ASVEL (5-2) Group G One home win against Panionios for the next day and the ASVEL's future will be secured. They suffered only one real bad result with a home loss against Kalev Tallin. That has been ment in Estonia (63-91). The rhodanians manage to show the same powerfull paint in Europe then in ProA. They grab 36.6rpg (3rd in ULEB) and shoot at 57% at 2pts. Their 8-men rotation is also a terrific asset but they should raise their 3pts accuracy (33.6%) and gain in defensive efficiency (79.86papg).
Chalon (3-4) Group B Disappointing in ProA, coach Beugnot's team has not a brilliant situation in its group. The reds lost twice against Koln... so they almost have no joker left to overcome the germans. They will have to win their three last games with a hard visit to Besiktas. Moussa Badiane and John Ford do a great job in the paint but the team needs a heavy bigmen as team scores under 50% at 2pts. Shawnta Rogers (11.7pts, 3.3ass) will be replaced by Darrell Mitchell.
Nancy (3-4) Group D The french leader is in trouble in Europe but their group is really tough. And they suffered real short losses. Their next game in Mariupol will define their future but even with a loss they could rank among the five best fourth which also advance to elimination rounds. They have an extensible bench with 9 players scoring at least 5ppg. The relation Ricardo Greer (15.6ppg, 5rpg, 3.9ass) - Cyril Julian (16.4ppg 60%, 4.6rpg in 25mns) leads the team. Coach Monschau can also give some precious minutes to his young center Zaki: 5.1ppg (74%) and 3.6rpg.
Strasbourg (3-4) Group I Tha Alsatians had a complicated start in ProA as well as in Uleb Cup. Since a few weeks the team feels better despite playing with no US swingman. The calendar could bring the team to the next phase as the Rhenus is an undeafeated arena in ULEB Cup and Turow and Zadar are still expected. The weakness on the road (-22.75ppg in 4 games) should be erased with only one game to play in Den Bosch. The team is not very efficient (no player above 11rkg points and 51st offensive balance), but the collective has great sense of sacrifice like captain McCord (7.1ppg 55%, 5.1rpg). Pettway is finding his place in the paint with two double-doubles in the two last victories.
Pau-Orthez (1-6) Group H The historic Euroleague team is going through a difficult period. In Europe, Pau only grabbed one win vs Benetton and has the 53rd offensive sheet with 67.42ppg. They have sad -113pts balance but the team has be redesigned for the next year. The new coach Laurent Mopsus will drive a all-new roster in 2008 with Antwayne Robison, Antonio Graves, Jeleel Akindele and Jeff Trepagnier. The last three ULEB Cup games will be used as lifts to set up the new collective and give some minutes to satisfying youngsters. It will be a ramp to the main target: save the ProA spot!
Eurocup: Two french teams were on the starting line but one hasn't gone through the preliminary round. Gravelines litterally sunk against the KK Zagreb with 2 defeats and an 185-150 aggergate. Not brilliant as the two teams have quite the same difficulties in their local championships: Gravelines is 4-8 in ProA and the KK Zagreb is 4-11 in Adriatic League.
Cholet did much better as they eliminated the AEK Athens in the preliminary round (160-146agg). The quarter final qualification is totally opened in a group where coach Kunter boys lost in Yuzhny, won against Lokomotiv Rostov and still have to meet twice the Barons from Riga. The team is also behaving well in the french league and is led by an efficient french trident: Nando De Colo (17ppg, 3.5rpg, 2.5ass), Claude Marquis (14.5ppg, 6.5rpg) and Steed Tchicamboud (13.3ppg, 5.3rpg, 3.0 apg). pourrais tu traduire le texte de nancy! merci | |
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JC Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 15068 Age : 37 Localisation : Paris Date d'inscription : 30/07/2006
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Ven 28 Déc 2007, 22:39 | |
| Je m'y colle si personne ne le fait :
Le leader de la ProA est frileux en Europe mais leur groupe est vraiment élevé. Et ils échouent sur de courtes défaites. Leur prochain match à Mariupol devrait définir leur futur, mais même avec une défaite, il pourrait se classer parmi les cinq meilleurs quatrièmes, qui seront qualifiés pour les phases à élimination directe. Il possède (le leader français) un banc conséquent avec neuf joueurs qui marquent au moins cinq points en moyenne. La relation R. Greer - C. Julian est la locomotive de l'équipe. Monschau, le coach, peut également donner de précieuses minutes à son jeune pivot Roger Zaki. _________________ JC
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claudius Slucky 2ème Dan
Nombre de messages : 622 Date d'inscription : 06/02/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Sam 29 Déc 2007, 18:05 | |
| - JC a écrit:
- Je m'y colle si personne ne le fait :
Le leader de la ProA est frileux en Europe mais leur groupe est vraiment élevé. Et ils échouent sur de courtes défaites. Leur prochain match à Mariupol devrait définir leur futur, mais même avec une défaite, il pourrait se classer parmi les cinq meilleurs quatrièmes, qui seront qualifiés pour les phases à élimination directe. Il possède (le leader français) un banc conséquent avec neuf joueurs qui marquent au moins cinq points en moyenne. La relation R. Greer - C. Julian est la locomotive de l'équipe. Monschau, le coach, peut également donner de précieuses minutes à son jeune pivot Roger Zaki. merci beaucoup "jc"pour ta traduction,et bonne année... | |
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bacou Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 10605 Age : 42 Date d'inscription : 18/08/2006
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 09:03 | |
| Euroligue (M) - Roanne - Barcelone, ce soirL'année commence fort pour Roanne ROANNE. _ L'année commence fort pour la Chorale de Roanne en Euroligue avec la réception de Barcelone, qui reste sur cinq victoires consécutives dans la compétition, ce soir à Clermont-Ferrand. Le champion de France, battu (82-76) au match aller, est pratiquement éliminé de la course au Top 16, mais quarante cars devraient emmener environ 4000 supporteurs roannais à Clermont, ce qui constituera la plus grosse assistance de sa saison européenne à la Maison des Sports. Les hommes de Jean-Denys Choulet ont repris l'entraînement dimanche, après onze jours de trêve. Laurent Cazalon, blessé aux ischio-jambiers, a recommencé à trottiner, mais ne devrait pas pouvoir reprendre la compétition avant samedi et la réception de Clermont-Ferrand en championnat. Mohamed Koné, nouvelle recrue venue renforcer le secteur intérieur, s'entraîne avec ses nouveaux coéquipiers, mais ne pourra être alignée en match avant le 26 janvier, terme de sa suspension sanctionnant un contrôle positif au cannabis. Les Roannais, qui doivent impérativement s'imposer pour conserver un petit espoir de se qualifier pour le Top 16, miseront à nouveau sur leurs quatre joueurs « All-Star » : Marc-Antoine Pellin, Marc Salyers, Brion Rush et Pape Badiane, les deux premiers étant respectivement meilleur passeur (5,22 passes par match) et meilleur marqueur (21,78 pts par match) de l'Euroligue. « Je ne pensais pas que l'on serait aussi proche du niveau de jeu des autres équipes d'Euroligue, très franchement », affirme Pape Badiane, le capitaine roannais. « Parce qu'il y a pas mal de matches que l'on perd de pas grand-chose, si on les ajoute aux victoires, on n'est vraiment pas loin, ajoute-t-il. On peut même se demander ce que cela aurait donné avec l'équipe de l'année dernière, mais ça, on ne le saura jamais. » • A suivre sur Sport+. est republicain _________________ La vie est une maladie mortelle sexuellement transmissible. Woody Allen | |
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xela slucky As des As
Nombre de messages : 3573 Age : 64 Localisation : squatter à Bercy Date d'inscription : 11/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 09:21 | |
| Merci Bacou... Meme article de l'AFP sur le site de la LNB........ _________________
Dernière édition par le Mer 02 Jan 2008, 10:26, édité 1 fois | |
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xela slucky As des As
Nombre de messages : 3573 Age : 64 Localisation : squatter à Bercy Date d'inscription : 11/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 09:54 | |
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- quarante cars devraient emmener environ 4000 supporteurs roannais à Clermont, ce qui constituera la plus grosse assistance de sa saison européenne à la Maison des Sports
. Sympa pour les supporters...Choulet s'est fait entendre...enfin de l'ambiance à Clermont.!!!!..et pourquoi pas une victoire pour notre représentant?? _________________ | |
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Jo L'incruste Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 5534 Age : 59 Localisation : Dieulouard Date d'inscription : 06/12/2005
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 11:11 | |
| Pour espérer une victoire Roannaise ce soir, il faudrait que Salyers retrouve son niveau "Euroligue" car ses dernières prestations ont été très moyennes. Mais je pense que face à un tel adversaire, Roanne pourra compter sur lui... | |
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dedemax54 Maître Slucky
Nombre de messages : 1701 Age : 78 Localisation : Quelque part avec mon déambulateur Date d'inscription : 01/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 14:24 | |
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Namele Slucky 1er Dan
Nombre de messages : 401 Age : 35 Localisation : Dorlisheim (67) Date d'inscription : 19/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 14:32 | |
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tony parker As des As
Nombre de messages : 4469 Localisation : nancy Date d'inscription : 06/12/2005
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 16:04 | |
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Korac As des As
Nombre de messages : 3081 Age : 44 Localisation : Tribune Fr celle qui fait du bruit Date d'inscription : 26/01/2006
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 18:03 | |
| _________________ Moretton une chanson .....
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aircraft Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 8119 Age : 41 Localisation : au pied de la montagne vosgienne Date d'inscription : 21/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 18:51 | |
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domrogers Disciple slucky
Nombre de messages : 165 Age : 67 Localisation : saint max Date d'inscription : 05/12/2006
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 19:10 | |
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xela slucky As des As
Nombre de messages : 3573 Age : 64 Localisation : squatter à Bercy Date d'inscription : 11/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 20:30 | |
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fabask Maître Slucky
Nombre de messages : 1601 Localisation : du côté de mont Date d'inscription : 16/05/2007
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machin00 As des As
Nombre de messages : 2871 Date d'inscription : 26/12/2005
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Mer 02 Jan 2008, 21:54 | |
| Roanne se défend pas mal, grâce à Badiane et Hess, mais surtout Salyers ^^ | |
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aircraft Korac Winner
Nombre de messages : 8119 Age : 41 Localisation : au pied de la montagne vosgienne Date d'inscription : 21/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: Les clubs français en euroleague Jeu 03 Jan 2008, 00:07 | |
| oui mais c'est quand meme une nouvelle défaite d'un club français en euroligue bon apparement ils ont quand meme pas été ridicule face au grand barça... | |
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